tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4056005406217946469.post3716315924943064043..comments2023-03-30T21:47:08.518-04:00Comments on Kicking Back: I wonder what Newton thought?Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17411680916657152897noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4056005406217946469.post-2752495231413076152010-07-16T06:47:51.862-04:002010-07-16T06:47:51.862-04:00I strongly agree and the scant mention I gave them...I strongly agree and the scant mention I gave them in this regard hardly does justice to the work they have done. Look for more in an upcomming piece.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17411680916657152897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4056005406217946469.post-57764579060518772332010-07-15T21:59:55.899-04:002010-07-15T21:59:55.899-04:00I would like to point out that unlike other games....I would like to point out that unlike other games. This is one where the Center Ref owns most of the responsibility. I do think the Assistant Referees were absolutely great! I notice we are not talking about them much. But, they did a great job!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4056005406217946469.post-53447831325837452152010-07-13T23:34:06.442-04:002010-07-13T23:34:06.442-04:00While I do not support fouls of any kind, there is...While I do not support fouls of any kind, there is a big difference between trying to do minor fouls and ones that are possible career ending/injuring fouls which the Dutch seemed to favor. I saw one foul where a cleat was rammed onto a players calf. I never thought the Dutch were going to play like this was some sort of gang brawl.<br /><br />Anon said: "Every sports publication in Spain anticipated a match where Webb would allow lots of fouls. He is got that type of reputation in Europe. I think the Netherlands took advantage of it."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4056005406217946469.post-83489972332712073522010-07-13T22:26:36.042-04:002010-07-13T22:26:36.042-04:00Derek ... you are rooting around where I was. When...Derek ... you are rooting around where I was. When the massref post get up to that site, read my review, we have similar opinions.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17411680916657152897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4056005406217946469.post-2134443240941635892010-07-13T22:09:43.876-04:002010-07-13T22:09:43.876-04:00I for one think Webb should have hands down sent D...I for one think Webb should have hands down sent De Jong off for the karate kick. I believe it set the tone for the rest of the game and gave assurance to the Dutch that their tactic of dirty play was going to be allowed. At half time I said this is going to end up being a short sided game really quick. And it should have been. From an entertainment perspective, which ultimately I'm sure FIFA might have wanted to see, if he was actually sent off, the game might have opened up more and we would have seen multiple goals from Spain. And the soccer critics would not have the ammunition they still have that soccer is a sport of diving cry babies and boring to watch. Oh how the power one referee has to change the minds of millions of people.Dereknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4056005406217946469.post-39817311349829902662010-07-13T17:51:12.884-04:002010-07-13T17:51:12.884-04:00"The Laws of Physics and Nature cannot change..."The Laws of Physics and Nature cannot change. What changes are the Laws of Men and their fickle desires. The rate at which these desires fluctuate is inversely proportional with the risk we have in the decision. the smaller the risk, the more we change our desires."<br /><br />Well said Anon!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17411680916657152897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4056005406217946469.post-26894653518158949912010-07-13T16:06:47.794-04:002010-07-13T16:06:47.794-04:00My friend Colleen ... the side by sides have been ...My friend Colleen ... the side by sides have been sent in to massref.net and I expect they will be posted sometime today. I will also be posting the full and unedited versions here, as for brevity sake, some elements were cut from each analysis going on massref.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17411680916657152897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4056005406217946469.post-91423772750199011522010-07-13T15:55:13.117-04:002010-07-13T15:55:13.117-04:00So where is the side by side with you and the coac...So where is the side by side with you and the coach? I have been checking since Sunday.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4056005406217946469.post-7513091281530522632010-07-13T15:05:59.667-04:002010-07-13T15:05:59.667-04:00I think that Webb should have given the red card t...I think that Webb should have given the red card to De Jong for his karate kick on Xavi Alonso. However, I think he could have avoided this situation by carding Van Bommel for tackling Iniesta from behind a couple of minutes earlier. Bottom line is that the game should have been called the same as a regular league game. Player safety should come first regardless of the game (World Cup final or U10 Rec). <br /><br />I don't think Mr. Webb will be giving another high profile game again.<br /><br />I enjoyed the world cup final as I was borned in Spain. Every sports publication in Spain anticipated a match where Webb would allow lots of fouls. He is got that type of reputation in Europe. I think the Netherlands took advantage of it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4056005406217946469.post-86667128206445174672010-07-13T10:43:27.640-04:002010-07-13T10:43:27.640-04:00Is it not the age old conflict for the referee bet...Is it not the age old conflict for the referee between the "SOG" (Spirt Of the Game) and the "LOL" (Letter Of the Law)? One being some what 'etherial' in nature and oft less defined and the later being fairly black & white?<br /><br />Level of play, (age of players and over all skill of them) becomes a factor in the SOG, and perhaps modifies the LOL aspect some what, to keep the game flowing. Is this not what is outlined in the 2009 USSF paper "Game Management Model: Flow, Foul Selection/Recognition & Game Control"<br /><br />"Hence, referees need to find the right balance between foul selection/recognition and allowing flow and game control."CW Ricenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4056005406217946469.post-63692587993989174872010-07-13T08:31:23.876-04:002010-07-13T08:31:23.876-04:00I have no doubt that Mr. Webb's position was u...I have no doubt that Mr. Webb's position was untenable. No matter what he would have done in this instance, he would have been crucified.<br />Give a red card and HE would have been blamed for ruining the game with more than 60 minutes left. give a yellow card and draw the ire of everyone for not applying TLOG.<br />Everyone in the world, and I mean everyone, knew this was a red card. <br />The Laws of Physics and Nature cannot change. What changes are the Laws of Men and their fickle desires. The rate at which these desires fluctuate is inversely proportional with the risk we have in the decision. the smaller the risk, the more we change our desires. <br />watching a game from the comfort of a chair (with no risk to our bodies or our reputation) we can can easily change our desire from wanting to see a "good game" to demanding that TLOG be applied appropriately.<br />I for one refuse to blame Mr. Webb for The fiasco caused by the Netherlands team and their strategy.<br />I did not enjoy this World Cup Final.<br />It is a sad anti-climax to what was an interesting tournament.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com